Talking Footy

WookieReturns wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:22 am

azif wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:36 am

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Average viewers is the only measure worth mentioning. There is one " big dog " in town when it comes to this

Its never been the only measure worth mentioning. Its been the focus of reporting because it was the primary way Oztam released data. It did not and never did accurately reflect total viewership, something which Oztam identifieid as an issue given the dominance of streaming based platforms which specifically use "views" as a measure.

Reach as a genuine matter of long term interest is rubbish, but total viewership can matter if you run a longer broadcast - although not always. Crickets reach doesnt seem to change much during the day, and neither does golf and longer games like that, but it definitely impacts AFL viewing. The reach numbers reflect this.

Which is why technically the most "watched" sport title isnt what some people think it is.

And thats why there is more than one big dog in town. The NRL dominates on average, the AFL dominates on reach. Guess which has been consistently paid more for the last 30 years.

Terry wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:51 am

WookieReturns wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:22 am

azif wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:36 am

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Average viewers is the only measure worth mentioning. There is one " big dog " in town when it comes to this

Its never been the only measure worth mentioning. Its been the focus of reporting because it was the primary way Oztam released data. It did not and never did accurately reflect total viewership, something which Oztam identifieid as an issue given the dominance of streaming based platforms which specifically use "views" as a measure.

Reach as a genuine matter of long term interest is rubbish, but total viewership can matter if you run a longer broadcast - although not always. Crickets reach doesnt seem to change much during the day, and neither does golf and longer games like that, but it definitely impacts AFL viewing. The reach numbers reflect this.

Which is why technically the most "watched" sport title isnt what some people think it is.

And thats why there is more than one big dog in town. The NRL dominates on average, the AFL dominates on reach. Guess which has been consistently paid more for the last 30 years.

Bummy, a drovers dog knows the reason why fumbling gets more broadcast money i.e. the mess goes for 33% longer than a RL game. Hence it has 33% more commercial value. Added to that is the laughably easy scoring system in fumbling that gives many more breaks in play i.e. more commercial value time again. The difference in payment has zero to do with tv ratings reach or average.

Hope you receive this fact in the good faith it is sent. Have a great day bummy.

Quolls2019 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:39 am

Thanks.
So it is nearly impossible to get an accurate figure ion total reach r Average until days or a week later (because of foxtel)?

Terry wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:51 am

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Bummy, a drovers dog knows the reason why fumbling gets more broadcast money i.e. the mess goes for 33% longer than a RL game. Hence it has 33% more commercial value. Added to that is the laughably easy scoring system in fumbling that gives many more breaks in play i.e. more commercial value time again. The difference in payment has zero to do with tv ratings reach or average.

Hope you receive this fact in the good faith it is sent. Have a great day bummy.

leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:00 pm

love to see State of Origin on Reach

i am not too sure that number has ever been released

Ive notice for a few years now

Channel 7 always claim reach alot

where as channel 9 rarely do

and that is for programs just not sport

WookieReturns wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:56 pm

leeroy*NRL* wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:00 pm

love to see State of Origin on Reach

i am not too sure that number has ever been released

Ive notice for a few years now

Channel 7 always claim reach alot

where as channel 9 rarely do

and that is for programs just not sport

2023

“Last night's incredible NRL Grand Final reached 4.6 million and further highlighted 9Now as the No.1 destination for big event live sport with a 56% Year on Year uplift,” said Hamish Turner, Nine’s Director of 9Now and Programming. “We have experienced fantastic year on year growth for 9Now this season as Nine continues to offer the biggest reach of any broadcaster in the country.”

The Seven Network’s coverage of the AFL Grand FInal reached a national audience of 4.98 million Australians on Channel 7 and 756,000 on 7plus.

Nine asppear to have stopped doing Reach for Origin after 2021.

2020
5.890 million people tuned into the NRL Grand Final between the Penrith Panthers and Melbourne Storm, LIVE on Nine and 9GEM (National cume reach)
5.231 million people tuned into Game 1 of State of Origin between New South Wales and Queensland, LIVE on Nine (National cume reach)
4.972 million people tuned into Game 2 of State of Origin between New South Wales and Queensland, LIVE on Nine (National cume reach)
5.296 million people tuned into Game 3 of State of Origin between New South Wales and Queensland, LIVE on Nine (National cume reach)
8.035 million unique people tuned into the 2020 State of Origin Series as a whole, LIVE on Nine (National cume reach)

2019 Season and State of Origin

8.766 million people tuned into the 2019 NRL season on Nine – including regular season, Finals and Grand Final (Excludes State of Origin) (National cume reach – season, finals, grand final).
9.537 million people tuned into the 2019 State of Origin series on Nine (National cume reach – season, finals, grand final)
2019 Finals Series
6.094 million people tuned into the 2019 NRL Finals on Nine – including Qualifying, Semi, Preliminary and Grand Final matches only (National cume reach - season).

Beaussie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:55 am

Total People

Total TV Overnight Top 30 Programs
Thu 14th Mar 2024

SEVEN’S AFL: THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL Seven 1,893,000 713,000 0

THURSDAY NIGHT NRL LIVE Nine 1,462,000 642,000 81,000

https://tvtonight.com.au/2024/03/thursd ... -2024.html

azif wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:09 pm

Ratings last night for both codes

the AFL had their huge super duper blockbuster all Melb traditional opener
its huge i tells ya..... huugggeeee

713k for FTA
maybe 450k to 500k stv
1.163 mill to 1.213 mill total

just an average run of the mill NRL clash last night
642k FTA
550k to 600k stv
1.192 to 1.242 mill total

https://tvtonight.com.au/2024/03/thursd ... -2024.html

hmmmm
almost certainly another head to head win to the NRL

Beaussie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:15 pm

azif wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:09 pm

Ratings last night for both codes

the AFL had their huge super duper blockbuster all Melb traditional opener
its huge i tells ya..... huugggeeee

713k for FTA
maybe 450k to 500k stv
1.163 mill to 1.213 mill total

just an average run of the mill NRL clash last night
642k FTA
550k to 600k stv
1.192 to 1.242 mill total

https://tvtonight.com.au/2024/03/thursd ... -2024.html

hmmmm
almost certainly another head to head win to the NRL

Your guesstimates are not facts. Almost certainly… yeah… nah