International AFL vs International RL

[TLPG]

Prove that it has, coward.

[King-Eliagh]

The sheer number of expats playing o/s proves it in my mind. I've seen the situation in europe, i know the ropes and am certain its been applied, generously and often. There's a reason clauses are made dumbo. If they had no need for expats to be allowed to play, this clause simply wouldnt be in the rules now would it TLPG?

Prove its never been used

[TLPG]

What you say there is not proof. It is assumption - and I don't believe you with regards to experience anyway.

You have to provide bona fide and verifiable evidence. Until then - the rule has not been used. Just because some ex-pats may play in the local competition is a long straw for you to draw and it doesn't work. Of course they'll play for the local comp. They just can't play in the International Cup, and rightly so.

[piesman2011]

KE,

In my opinion. The onus of proof is on the person trying to prove something (ie that the rules has been applied). It is almost impossible to prove that a rule has not been applied, even if this is the case.

[TLPG]

It IS impossible, Pie. You can't prove a negative. But that concept is beyond KE.

[King-Eliagh]

The rule itself has been made for a reason, all rules are. To say it has "never been applied" is ridiculous. In this case it's similar to saying the head hig tackle rule has never been applied.

We must understand a few things:

1. In my experience playing and talking with marngrook players o/s the number of expats playing in the comps was above 80%, and many of these had been living o/s for years.
2. I've seen this rule applied in cricket for the Irish and Netherlands teams.
3. What Aussie wouldnt want to try his hand at making the national side (I did!) and then coming to play in melb in the cup?
4. The level of ability amongst the local players was generally well under that of the Aussie expats playing, well under.

I dont need to provide proof. Common sense saves me the time.

And the old impossible to prove if this has not been applied is garbage. There would be paper work involved if someone had applied. If noone has there would be no paperwork i.e. no record and therefore clear evidence that the rule has not needed to be applied.

[TLPG]

1. You have no experience so stop making things up.
2. Prove it.
3. You didn't, and besides that's why the rule is there! To PREVENT that, and have LOCALS play the game!
4. Try and say that to the teams in the International Cup - you'd be fried!

Common sense? The last paragraph backs up my argument - not yours. There is no record, so the rule has not been applied - because the countries that play don't need to apply it. Simple!

For those with common sense anyway, of which you are not included in that number KE.

[King-Eliagh]

1. Yes I do.
2. Just believe me k. We get to the truth quicker that way, as a team.
3. I did.
4. Try and say that to the xpat filled teams in the international cup? Is that what you said?

It's been applied.

[TLPG]

1. You have no experience so stop making things up.

1. Yes I do.

You are a barefaced liar.

2. Prove it.

2. Just believe me k. We get to the truth quicker that way, as a team.

I don't believe you. The truth is what I have said and you are yet to provide a scrap of evidence otherwise.

3. You didn't, and besides that's why the rule is there! To PREVENT that, and have LOCALS play the game!

3. I did.

Assumption is not evidence.

4. Try and say that to the teams in the International Cup - you'd be fried!

4. Try and say that to the xpat filled teams in the international cup? Is that what you said?

No, try and say that to any team at the International Cup - because there ARE NO EX-PATS PLAYING! They would fry you for that lie!

There is no record, so the rule has not been applied - because the countries that play don't need to apply it. Simple!

It's been applied.

It hasn't and you bloody well know it. Stop lying you stupid fool, and admit that you have no idea what you are talking about. Do it! You'll feel better for it because it's the truth - something that is completely alien to you.

[eelofwest]

TLPG, there's a clause in the rules which allows it. I think that clause was posted in this thread. It's official rules mate. Get off your rocking horse and come join us adults who speak the truth not tantrums.

This guy is making coslettuce look sane King...

They have applied this rule to get the international cup of the ground, why would a rule exist at all if there were no need for it you tool????? ????????

[TLPG]

The rule exists to PREVENT ex-pats from playing, idiot! Not the other way around!

Now who's the tool?

[King-Eliagh]

Oh TLPG. We'll just have to agree to disagree then. If you just wont believe me what can i do? I do know though you've been trying to muster up evidence of me playing your fav game and, unfortunately for you, others who know I've played have said...YES

Did that feel like egg thrown on your face or what?

[TLPG]

No it didn't. Your total lack of knowledge of the great game of football is proof enough that you've never played it, or even been involved in any way.

You can agree to disagree if you want to. I will always know that I am right and that you are wrong.

[King-Eliagh]

[TLPG]

Oh dear, he's fallen in the water!